Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

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Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Shadowgirlau » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:46 am

Please bear in mind that this article is American, how ever there are similarities in our own situation with the ever increasing costs of our own food. My goodness I went shopping last week, bought no fruit or veg (other than potatoes) no meat and no cleaning item, certainly no snack foods or sweets and my grocery bill was still over a hundred dollars at $109.98
I was horrified. Am so glad that I have a good veggie garden and am grateful for the lamb which we just processed for the freezer. The family may get tiered of lamb but will be reminded when they do that it is cheaper than buying meat.

The piece I refer to may be simplifying the whole problem but then I don't necessarily think from what I have read both in the news and from others comments that the problem is one dimensional anyway. For myself and many others on groups such as ours quite a few of us grow our own healthy fruit and Veg therefor we are willing to trade some of our valuable time for a healthier eating option. Not sure where we fit in this?


http://news.yahoo.com/study-healthy-eat ... 51076.html
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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Heidi » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:37 am

Hi,
When my kids grow up and move away, if they don't stay in the country, they are going to be in for a rude shock regarding meat prices and fruit and veg prices! They eat home grown pork, beef, chicken, lamb, citrus and usually vegies (but not with all this rain, my garden is an absolute failure). Their partners are going to get sick of hearing... "when I was growing up, we ate "insert food group here" every meal, and mum and dad weren't rich people, why can't we do that too?". I hope they stay in the country and follow a similar self sufficient lifestyle that we enjoy.
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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby minnie » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:38 pm

It certainly is a shock with the cost of the basics in the supermarket... I look in a trolley and think gee whiz that's not much but it's always over $100, and no meat, snacks etc but veg at the moment.

I have a friend in the US that says he can only afford hamburger, never has a steak anymore and grows a bit in his garden... never had until the last few years. He's had weight problems and diabetes.

Most of course who don't have money eat bad foods as the bad foods are so much cheaper than the good foods.

Another friend over there eats all organic and good, but they have the money and aren't overweight.

It's well and truly happening here and so many keep turning a blind eye but for those with little children, they need to ensure they eat well while growing because it will haunt them for the rest of their lives otherwise... best thing grow as much as you can and get a couple of hens.

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Mojojo » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:23 pm

We were chatting at work the other week about how much people spend on groceries... one fellow, with a wife and two kids under four, spends over $400 a WEEK. I nearly dropped dead.
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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Heidi » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:26 pm

I just got given a sow for free. I had intended to have her slaughtered straight away, but then realised that perhaps an 8month old sow named "snowflake" who liked scratches and apples, had a higher and better use. So I bartered her with a friend's daughter, who is starting up a free range piggery, for two of her weaner piglets every year :D . You don't have to be rich to eat well, you just need to forgo the quick fix for the long term returns!
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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby minnie » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:44 am

Hi Jo,

I know, I see people in the supermarket and can't believe what they're paying and most is junk!

Hi Heidi,

Good on you, what a great deal!

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Hayhay » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:47 pm

So much for healthier food costing less like what I hear spruiked about!

It really is a big societal problem, whilst we can ensure our kids eat well, its all the kids for whom good nutrition in the early years is so vitally important.

Sounds a great deal Heidi! So much is about instant gratification over delayed gratification - but the latter is oh so much better!

And yeah its crazy the amount people can spend on food shopping.

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Shadowgirlau » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:54 am

And yeah its crazy the amount people can spend on food shopping.


Couldn't agree more, it is just awful going food shopping these days (though several people I know would say it has always been awful going food shopping) :) You see many people just walking around undecided what to buy or taking something and putting it back a little later. I don't mind this except for the cold items which people tend to just put back on a shelf somewhere instead of in the fridge, that annoys me because these people are potentially putting my life and well being at risk.

Was in one of the big brand supermarkets doing some shopping and noticed a tray of fish in the magazine rack in front of the check out so I handed it to the cashier and told her where it had been sitting and that it looked like someone had decided against buying it after all. She called for assistance handed the fish over to the person who came and told her to go and put it back in the freezer. I promptly pipe up and say - you can't do that and why to be told/it'll be fine. Needless to say I paid for my shopping then asked to see the manager who also told me that it was okay to do along with do you know how much fish costs? Really? No wonder people get sick from food poisoning, next option was a call to public health who did take it very seriously because they locked that shop down the very next day. They will have been kept on their toes for awhile too as the inspector was visiting the shop weekly for 3 or 4 months so I wondered how many other infringements they found?
Mind you that was a drop in the ocean to what really occurs all over the place in our supermarkets and restaurants.

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Mojojo » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:28 am

Heidi, brilliant deal!

Kathleen good on you for taking it that far. Can't believe that was the response you got from even the manager!

I do still believe that healthy eating is cheaper, there's no way that living on processed packaged stuff is cheap. I think the big problem is that healthy eating requires a bit of time input to prepare it, and alot of people don't have that inclination. Or the knowledge.
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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby minnie » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:46 am

Hi Kathleen,

Way to go, I bet they're very careful when you shop these days. :lol: And quite right, this is way so many get food poisoning these days!

I think the big problem is that healthy eating requires a bit of time input to prepare it, and alot of people don't have that inclination.


Yes Jo, too many think even the most simple of preparation is too much. We're all guilty of easy nights etc etc but I don't know how many people have said to me when telling them something dead easy to make 'oh but I don't have time like you'... which mind you gets up my nose! Considering I do work in our business and we are building up a farm and, and, and... I have as much time as a full time working woman and like them some nights can't be bothered, but most of time if I wrangle things it's not too hard.

Hmm this sounds like a rant, and not meant to be but... oh well. ;)

On the wrangle, I wanted to make lasagne and had too much meat to mince for it so decided to do the lasagne meat sauce and a pie filling on the same night, just needed two pots. So I did pies for us that night and then yesterday I did the lasagne sheets (fresh pasta, sooo much nicer) and finished the lasagne for last night, it felt a very easy dinner to make split between the nights. ;)

Honestly a stew with some chuck steak and as many veg as you can cut up and just slow cooked with a lump of bread is healthier than most seem to eat these days. Oh oh back ranting... and I'm in a good mood today. ;) :lol:

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Hayhay » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:50 pm

If we were to weigh up the associated costs of not eating healthier (ie illness, disease, lack of stamina, health problems etc etc etc) then eating healthier is MILES cheaper!

Phew Kathleen...all the more reason not to shop in supermarkets!!! Went to the big stores last week for the first time in over 6 months!

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Shadowgirlau » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:21 am

Hayhay wrote:Phew Kathleen...all the more reason not to shop in supermarkets!!! Went to the big stores last week for the first time in over 6 months!


Well you haven't been missing much :lol: Such a long time between visits would have been an eye opener for you also.
These days I am in and out of the stores quicker than you can say Good Morning, with no wish to dilly dally in them at all.
These days I tend to go in get what I want/need and straight out again, with having a browse to see what else is on offer or what new items there may be no longer holds the same appeal.

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby dggoatlover » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:25 am

Same here - I do groccery shop once a week but it is in and out with no fuss. I don't take the hubby or kids with me and I have a set written list.

$400 a week on grocceries! Eeeek! We are the same - a family of four - hubby, wife and two teenage children - I buy all our food apart from eggs and milk and my shopping budget is $150 per week. I would have heart failure if my food bill cost that much!!! :shock: I do try to make all our meals though and I love my slow cooker!!

Every one has the time - its their choice on how they use it! :D

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Postby minnie » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:22 pm

Every one has the time - its their choice on how they use it!


Great quote Desley, totally agree.

Are you getting meat in your shopping?

I'm spending more than that on two of us, but approx $30 is pet food... I used to spend $100 every week and got a lot with that, but it's just not getting there at all these days. I know my trip to town last week I spent $300 that was our groceries, pets, livestock (calf pellets, alpaca pellets, chaff) and petrol and a couple of punnets of veg and it was gone.

I have to say these days I get no pleasure what so ever shopping and if I could order the basics (flour, sugar etc) online and grow the rest I'd never go shopping again the way I feel of late. Everyone walks around the grocery shop frowning and looking depressed, everyone is obviously feeling it.
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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Shadowgirlau » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:19 am

Vicki I think everyone of us is about to feel it a lot more too in the future after seeing that the stock markets crashed worldwide yesterday (in that they were all down).

I hardly buy any meat and only a few veggies as I try to eat only what I have grown, even so I spend over $100 each time I go shopping no matter how careful I am.

Think it is time I started challenging myself to decrease my spending :D to see where it gets me?

Kathleen
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Postby minnie » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:40 pm

Hi Kathleen,

Yes times are hitting hard, and I know we look forward to getting the garden producing.

Like you I really try to screw down the budget and when I look in my shopping trolley just shake my head, there's certainly not much in it!

I'm now going to Aldi's looking at there prices then go to Woolies, and if cheaper than Aldi's get it at Woolies and vice versa. As for meat we're only buying chicken at the moment (getting very sick of chicken ;) ) as we've used all but tonights roast and snag meat of our last meat order and are waiting to put our two 'steers' in the freezer. Hopefully soon I'll get a lamb... I've always liked a mix of meats.

But the veggo meals increase although, using not as many veg as I'd like, most veg is astronomical in the scheme of things, iceberg lettuce is still well over $2 which is better than the $5 in summer but...

The answer, is in the ground about to pop. ;)

Vicki

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby Hayhay » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:20 pm

Shadowgirlau wrote:Well you haven't been missing much :lol: Such a long time between visits would have been an eye opener for you also.
Kathleen


Actually it was really healing - last time I was at a big store I was verbally abused....this time was nice, friendly people, smiles, was a relief I'd been dreading going back! Mind you I'm still happy to go once every six months!

We've been keeping a monthly record of spending - its hard to do via weekly as I order wholesale through one friend bi-monthly, about to order wholesale throug someone else seasonally, go to farmers market, meat at biodynamic butcher or an eighth of a cow at a time, olive oil and flour etc in bulk direct from farmers, odds and ends from local stores etc etc etc. So each month is different depending on the larger orders/items that we've gotten! But for sure it averages less than a thousand a month.

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Postby minnie » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:34 pm

Hi Hayley,

Sounds like you've got shopping sorted out... a bit here a bit there... in many ways we're a bit the same other than the groceries at Woolies and Aldi's.

We buy our meat bulk, half cows, whole lamb, half pig etc... but think we'll need to buy another small freezer when the two boys go. As it will be two whole (if smaller breed) animals instead of a half an angus.

I went into the bulk foods store in Lismore a couple of weeks back and found it great, got rye flour and different seeds etc. The previous bulk health food store 'Fundamental Foods' or 'Fundies' went all 'new age' and small packaging for the 'Byron Set'... don't bother going there anymore.

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby dggoatlover » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:46 am

Yes that includes meat as well. We eat fairly plain - no fancy stuff - no expensive steak etc. Occasionally I splurge and buy something really nice. But other then that its just simple things like rissoles w/ veg or casserole with mashed potato etc, chicken wings etc. We could afford to spend a bit more but I am a bit of a scrooge in that dept! When younger I spent several years on the dole as jobs were in short supply so I learnt to make my dollars stretch and I have also had a stint as a single parent so struggled to manage a tight budget with rent, food etc and two small children. I think those lessons back then have really helped me out in the long term!

My pet hate when shopping is how the check out assistants pack the bags! Gggrrrrrr!!!!! There is nothing I dislike worse than squashed food when I am paying good money for it :evil:

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Re: Eating Healthy Food a priveledge for the Rich?

Postby minnie » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:21 pm

Hi Desley,

You do well to fit it into $150 per week for 4 people, I've been so tight over the last few months and yet it still goes over $100 for two and three cats. :oops: Just veg is close to $50 or more... and that's not getting lots, it's painful shopping these days. I don't buy beef or lamb only a bit of chicken in the meat. Then add cheese (a bag of mozzarella and every few week a 1kg block cheddar, no camembert or specialty cheese) that another $7 (rounded up) for Mozz and $10 for cheddar, so now it's $60 and I've got veg and cheese, cat food $25, now it's $85. If it's a week for coffee $20/bread flour $11 or god forbid olive oil (usually wait for specials), that's not thinking about things like tins of beans, or cereal, milk, toilet paper etc etc. Damn impossible... the garden will make a difference though.

My pet hate when shopping is how the check out assistants pack the bags! Gggrrrrrr!!!!!


This is something that absolutely has driven me nuts for years!! I remember a girl dropping a tin on biscuits once... now I have all my bags and sort along the checkout with the bag in front of what's to go into it! I say to them 'it's sorted by bag' and all bar one has been very happy and think I do it to help them. :lol: But if it makes it easy for them and me, I'm a happy person.

That one girl, I never go to her and if the manager ever pushes me in her direction I'll tell her why, not only did she flatly refuse to put things how I sorted them into the bags she mixed them up how she wanted... I was sooo angry I thought if I say a word I'll scream. It was so on the tip of my tongue to say, 'are you paying for these groceries because obviously you sorted how you want to be, not me the person paying'... boy was I mad!!

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