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first gouda

Postby keezawitch » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:43 pm

I have made my first gouda, It is in cheese fridge aging. :D big thank you for the recipe :D

kerry

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Re: first gouda

Postby Heidi » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:02 pm

Hi,
which recipe did you use? I'm just about to get back into the swing of cheesemaking as I've finally gotten time to milk the Jersey.
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Re: first gouda

Postby keezawitch » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:14 am

Hi Heidi, :D Di Carter from on this forum sent me a couple of recipes and I used them with my goat milk, they we really simple and I hope they taste good when I finally cut them. My first goatmilk cheddar turned out nice, my daughter and nieces loved it so I will have to make a day at home and make some more. If you p.m me i will try and forward the recipes onto you or you could contact di direct through here.

Kerry

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Re: first gouda

Postby Heidi » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:01 pm

Hi Kerry,
Thanks, shall PM you (and you can PM it back or email it to me please).

I made my first Edam for the year yesterday (as per the recipe I posted on the "how to section"). It was a tad surreal, because the little one in the picture is off to school now, and the "baby" that I referred to feeding, was the little one helping me this time. I do have to admit though, I was a tad less easy going making the maiden cheese of the season, compared to the relaxed feel when I had been making lots of it!

I brined it this morning and it's in the Aldi "cheese cave" now. I did make the mistake of only using 7L of milk, instead of the usual 10L or 20L that I had been using. It produced a small cheese round, almost not worth the bother, but I think I'll make them that size again, but make multiples of them at a time.

I'm also waiting for the humidity to decrease and then I'll do a few camembert, which I didn't have success at last time.....(too much sad stuff going on in my personal life to really be attentive to the camembert!).

Actually, just writing this I'm starting to get excited...I'd forgot about 30minute mozzarella and how great it is to have on toasted sandwiches, and how easy to make, then the ricotta in the cannelloni.....hmmm....must take one of the two calves of my dear Spot so I can bump up the milk production!

Its also been about 10 weeks since she freshened, so I think I can try my luck at preg testing her with a tail bleed. Fingers crossed my bull has done his job.

Its actually quite funny, from purchasing one cow (Spot the Jersey) I now own...Spot (the Jersey), her three daughters, Raisin (3yo), Skye (2yo) and Sugar (10 weeks old), and Raisin's steered son, "Bot", and Skye's daughter "Anna". I also have "Chuck" (almost 2yo) Spot's foster steer, who will go to Freezer Camp in a few months time, and Spot's new foster steer "Caramel", (10 weeks old), who will go into the freezer in about 2 years or so.

We own the bull too...which we don't want to sell on, so we will now sell on any heifers we get, but will keep the heifers we have already. Evidently its okay to breed sire back to daughter, but not to grand-daughter. I hope that they produce all bull calves from now on, so we can sell them or grow them out, without wishing that we could keep them!

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Re: first gouda

Postby keezawitch » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:37 pm

heidi, i tried to send the recipes to no avail I have PM'd you about it.I only make 6ltre cheeses at the moment as A) I dont have a big enough pot, gotta get one and B) the cheese press my son made me will only fit a small tube in. With time I hope to get bigger in both. I am suprised you cant do granfather over granddaughter as it was once common in breeding ped dogs, you could do it once but needed to go out to breed the pups so you dont get genetic problems, we never put father over daughter in dog world too risky. Funny isnt it how one method works with animals and not others, after all they are all mammals. I will keep trying to get those recipes to you.

kerry

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Re: first gouda

Postby Heidi » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:33 pm

Hi Kerry,
Thanks for trying. I've sent you an email so you can hopefully get them to me. Funny how you don't miss something, and then you get a taste of it again (figuratively) and you just can't wait to get back into it!
Why don't you have a go at doing a bit of a blurb about making some goat cheeses? Minnie (Vickie) could put them in the "how to section" on this site. It would be good to learn!

About molds and presses etc, I made most of my molds from 50 cent plastic containers from the op shop, and all my stainless steel equipment has come from there too, including the pots!

H

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Re: first gouda

Postby minnie » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:23 am

Hi Heidi and Kerry,

Sure can put it up, just see if you can email the 'straight text' and any pics as attachments.

We've put father over daughter with cattle, because we want to put more of the bull's line in the herd, then we won't use him over 'those' grand-daughters from his daughters. We could use over his grand-daughters if he wasn't also the father...

Dexter cattle have been very line bred (often called in-breeding) in some lines, especially one line, is heavily represented (Woodmagic). Our bull comes from a different line (Cobthorn) on his sires side that has 'none' of the Woodmagic line and very few straws were available in Australia and they were expensive, hence us wanting a bull with Cobthorn. Cobthorn animals are bred by the 'Rare breeds trust' which was trying to save the breed.

The reason for doing this with dexters was the breed was almost lost due to the 'dwarf gene called chrondodysplasia which meant two carriers together produced a dead calf every so many. These carriers were the ones the British shows and Aristocracy liked the best and kept breeding them almost to the breed extinction. Sadly some breeders still persist with the carriers (and cover things by putting them with a none carrier) but in my opinion to persist with a lethal gene is stupid. :roll: And the UK still prefer to show the dwarf carriers. :o

:D
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Re: first gouda

Postby keezawitch » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:37 pm

oh goodness, I dont really know that much about goatmilk cheese, i am still learning. If you explain to me how to do a blurb(new to using forums) I will put a few things together, the main thing I beleive is goatmilk must be handled a bit more gently than cow milk and can be made at a lower temp because the curds are very fragile. I found the info on the Dexters interesting, we have had the same problems in the dog world, and funny enough a lot of old english breeds are having the same problems the dexters have, they breed for the ring not for the welfare of the breed and in doing this they are destroying their bloodlines. Have look at british bulldogs they have been so inbred to get what the judges want(judges have a lot to answer to) the breed cannot mate naturally, they have to be AI or assisted :shock: . I have kelpie but I also have an english breed called English Toy Terriers (Black and Tan) there isnt a lot of the terriers around and last time I checked them out in there own country the were endangered with only 500 left, really sad as these dogs were bred for a purpose, to hunt vermin, and they do the job well. They also work sheep and goats along with the Kelpies :lol: versatile little buggers. Good luck with preserving the Dexters I hope it works out well for you.

Kerry

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Re: first gouda

Postby minnie » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:26 am

Hi Kerry,

A blurb is just a word (it's not internet speak) for write up some words.

If you look at the step by step on the main site you'll get an idea of how it goes. Photo's taken to show how it looks are good too it really does help to 'see' a picture of what you're talking about.

No rush, don't feel pressured... just do it if you want in your own time.

Yes I read about the bull dogs years back, they did the same with persian cats, some are so flat in the face they can hardly breathe. Absolutely terrible when people get so competitive about a breed. I think that's part of the reason I'm not into showing.

The dexters have made a great come back and the price of a dexter is usually the same as bigger breeds but in the early 90s people were paying $10,000 and more for a pure blood (dexter both sides all the way back), but in Australia we had an extensive grading programme so that by grade 4 females were registered as Pure Bred and males by grade 5. These days you can get pure blood for the same price usually, depends where you live. But personally I would buy only a pure blood bull (other than if it was poll, which has to be a graded animal) because your bull is your herd.

Mind you Heidi with her dexter/angus bull got a got cross, the best beef is dexter and angus. ;)

Vicki
PS I read a little while back that the Australian Cattle Dog came from purposefully crossing a british terrier breed with dingo. Interesting.

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Re: first gouda

Postby keezawitch » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:03 pm

oh no :roll: , the australian cattle dog was breed over many generations using different breeds, there is bull terrier in there, but wait for it, there is dalmation so they could work with horses, aust kelpie for working ability, Dingo for stealth and then they put kelpie so they could kerb the bite and make them easy to handle.I think thats it. As you see there was a lot of thought and hard work put into breeding a great cattle dog. :D


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Re: first gouda/Australian Cattle Dog

Postby Shadowgirlau » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:19 am

My beloved dog was an Australian Cattle Dog. Gorgeous dog, very protective of me and my shadow. Followed me everywhere unless DH got the ute out and then she would be gone. She loved that ute :lol: Is almost 4 years since she passed and I still miss her.

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Re: first gouda

Postby minnie » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:53 am

Gee whiz Kathleen,

Four years since she went, that doesn't seem that long ago.

Didn't know about all the other breeds Kerry, I'd only read the orginal cross by a 'Welsh'? farmer. Interesting stuff...
:)
Vicki

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Re: first gouda

Postby keezawitch » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:36 pm

yes it is very interesting when you look at how and why they have breed some dogs, I think there is a red setter in there somewhere too. And beleive it or not the stumpy tailed cattle dog was breed completely different, and they nearly died out because of one selfish person, thankfully they have been saved by using the grading method and a lot of hard work. Now as for the kelpie, we dont really know what the original breeds where in them, they talk about a prick eared working dog from the welsh, i think, border in the uk being the foundation but no one really knows or will admit that they have dingo in there somewhere, I beleive there is as some lines get throughbacks and they look just like alpine dingos. The name kelpie(means watersprite) comes from the first litter that was very successful in trailing out of a Bitch Called Kelpie, hence kelpies's pups became Kelpie. Sorry I do ramble sometimes ;)

kerry

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Re: first gouda

Postby Heidi » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:22 pm

This is what I (almost) like best about this forum...where else could a thread about Gouda, end up discussing Kelpies, with an intermission of Dexters?

Got to go...milking in the morning.. must post some pics of my little herd...

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Re: first gouda

Postby minnie » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:37 am

:lol: :lol: it sort of goes like a conversation over a cuppa here... :lol: :lol:

Look forward to the pics!

Vicki

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Re: first gouda

Postby keezawitch » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:34 pm

i look forward to the pics too, kerry


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